why's it so much better on the other side? (22)

1 Name: stanleylieber : 2009-05-01 09:19 ID:XZ59s0Rr [Del]

Maybe it's not!

2 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg : 2009-05-01 09:36 ID:XZ59s0Rr [Del]

This board may be a little confusing for anyone not familiar with 2ch style message boards. There are no accounts or logins required; simply type a username in the "Name" field (followed by a tripcode, if you like), and an optional e-mail address in the "Link" field. There is no e-mail notification of new posts, but the board may be tracked via the RSS link at the bottom of the page. Each category will have a separate RSS field.

3 Name: newchaos : 2009-05-01 09:54 ID:b9IvKlZd [Del]

veni vidi vici

you know, I think I should mention it looks like I have delete privs on your message. Or is that just removing the message from my view?

4 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg : 2009-05-01 09:58 ID:XZ59s0Rr [Del]

>>3

It shows you the Del link but it won't actually let you do it unless you have the same cookie as the post's author.

5 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg : 2009-05-01 10:03 ID:XZ59s0Rr [Del]

Suggestions for improving the CSS are always welcome. :D

6 Name: newchaos!FByqDI9Gn. : 2009-05-01 10:08 ID:b9IvKlZd [Del]

i really don't know what to do with more than 140 characters.

141 characters = "too long; didn't read"

7 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg : 2009-05-01 10:11 ID:XZ59s0Rr [Del]

>>6

:falloff:

8 Name: newchaos!FByqDI9Gn. : 2009-05-01 10:14 ID:b9IvKlZd [Del]

>>7 oh just figured out how you are referencing messages. i'm a little slow. it's not my fault, it's probably genetic.

9 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg : 2009-05-01 10:16 ID:XZ59s0Rr [Del]

>>8

These boards were confusing as hell to me at first.

10 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg : 2009-05-01 10:18 ID:XZ59s0Rr [Del]

>>2

RSS FEED, not RSS field.

11 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg!!K5Fwj931 : 2009-05-06 20:20 ID:Rd/SxyAv [Del]

Greetings, newcomers!

12 Name: blaqdiamond : 2009-05-10 20:40 ID:HPcBG3CV [Del]

Greetings, Stanley! I found the link to here at prince.org, where I found you're posting interesting comments :)

Although I'm not participating discussions held there (because of limitation with my English), I'm enjoying many of your comments.

Unfortunately, I don't understand much when you are joking since our cultural background differs. However, I see you're taking many valid points when you talk about Prince's music. Honestly, in a lot of situation already existed, I'd post very similar comment if I could. Many people in Prince fan site don't know what the criticism is, IMO.

Well, if you could allow me for my ability with English, please let me come here and talk something interesting.

BTW, what is 2ch style message boards?

Cheers!

13 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg!!K5Fwj931 : 2009-05-10 23:14 ID:YBXrDRKJ [Del]

>>12

Welcome, blaqdiamond!

I hope people will feel comfortable expressing themselves here. The idea behind this site is to create a text-only, mostly unmoderated space for open discussion.

2ch is a Japanese web forum that was one of the first to use software similar to what we're using here. From Wikipedia:
One of the most distinctive features of 2ch is the complete freedom of anonymous posting. This is a large departure from most English language internet forums which require some form of registration, usually coupled with email verification for further identification of an individual. On 2ch, a name field is available but seldom used. Entering your name in the field, unless you do so with an obvious lack of purpose, would identify you as a newbie who doesn't understand the forum, an administrator, or someone attempting to be a Web celebrity.

The reason for allowing anonymous posting was given in an interview with the founder of 2ch in the Japan Media Review:

Q: Why did you decide to use perfect anonymity, not even requiring a user name?
A: Because delivering news without taking any risk is very important to us. There is a lot of information disclosure or secret news gathered on Channel 2. Few people would post that kind of information by taking a risk. Moreover, people can only truly discuss something when they don't know each other.
If there is a user ID attached to a user, a discussion tends to become a criticizing game. On the other hand, under the anonymous system, even though your opinion/information is criticized, you don't know with whom to be upset. Also with a user ID, those who participate in the site for a long time tend to have authority, and it becomes difficult for a user to disagree with them. Under a perfectly anonymous system, you can say, "it's boring," if it is actually boring. All information is treated equally; only an accurate argument will work.

I encourage the use of Names (preferably with tripcodes) here, but it's absolutely NOT mandatory.

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15 Name: blaqdiamond : 2009-05-11 05:10 ID:HPcBG3CV [Del]

Wow, you know Japanese 2ch. Japanese 2ch came to my mind a bit but I didn't think you were mentioning to it.

Thank you for your quotation. I didn't know it's described in Wikipedia.

Do you think anonymous BBS works fine when people discuss openly or frankly? I've seen discussion at 2ch being ruined horribly so many times by childish, cruel comments (or people). It sometimes becomes very cold place such like the Antarctic Ocean. (Sorry for having forgot telling you I'm Japanese.)

I know thread at Prince.org can be cruel place as well. However, I see differences. In the thread at Prince.org, you can see who talks what. In the thread at 2ch, you can't know it. As far as I see both, the difference with feelings that derives from this difference is big.
At Prince.org, you can recognize the existence of specific person behind another computer. At the thread at 2ch, you can't know the population there to begin with and it sometimes makes you think, a lot of or all, people there are attacking you when seeing just several rude comments given to you. I mean you easily fail to know whom you are talking to. Showing ID does not help much because it changes when ISP re-assigns different IP address. (Of course, it seldom happens in a short term. However, the longer continues the thread, the more times changes the IP address.)

I understand the reason why you suggest to use the tripcode. I hope it will works fine.

Anyway, what I tell here is just what I experienced at 2ch. I know the environment is quite different and think similar disaster is unlikely brought here. (Millions of people access 2ch a day and it makes situation more serious.)

PS How can I attach the tripcode here?

16 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg!!K5Fwj931 : 2009-05-11 09:26 ID:XZ59s0Rr [Del]

>>15

To attach a tripcode fill in the "Name:" blank like this:

username!!password

The board will automatically encrypt your password(s) and display it something like this:

stanleylieber!!K5Fwj931

Here is some more information about tripcodes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripcode

17 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg!!K5Fwj931 : 2009-05-11 09:29 ID:XZ59s0Rr [Del]

>>15

I can see what you mean about anonymous posting making 2ch somewhat unbearable at times. The same is true for many English language text boards that I've seen (linked from 2ch.us and other sites). I agree with you that I doubt this site will attract that kind of traffic. :D

Part of the experiment with this board is that, since there are no images and no real identifying information, I hope people feel free to express their ideas. I'm cognizant of the fact that Prince has sent his lawyers after many websites. I'd like for this site to be as immune from his claims as possible.

18 Name: blaqdiamond!!ENalNaK1 : 2009-05-12 05:08 ID:HPcBG3CV [Del]

Okay, your points upon taking 2ch style taken.

Although talking logically through the whole flow while adapting to changing context is very important for discussion in many senses, trying to keep it can be obstacle for some people to move to the next step of discussion. For them, anonymous posting is easy to handle to place themselves into the new context. The balance seems to be important.

Does my expression make sense?

19 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg!!K5Fwj931 : 2009-05-12 07:21 ID:cWZfaR2G [Del]

>>18

I believe I understand what you are saying. :D

20 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg!!K5Fwj931 : 2009-05-12 07:39 ID:cWZfaR2G [Del]

I think right now the main obstacle to more users participating here is that many people are unfamiliar with this type of message board.

21 Name: blaqdiamond!!ENalNaK1 : 2009-05-13 04:13 ID:HPcBG3CV [Del]

>>20

Indeed :D I guess the most confusing for the novice user is the way old comments are hidden.

22 Name: stanleylieber!swQsw.nsVg!!K5Fwj931 : 2009-05-13 10:14 ID:XZ59s0Rr [Del]

>>21

I agree that's a bit confusing. I would prefer it if the "Entire thread" link was at the top of the thread.
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